The 9.4 Dutch Revolver

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By alcan7

Dutch Revolver Photos

The 2 sizes of the 9.4 Dutch Revolver
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The 2 sizes of the 9.4 Dutch Revolver
Reloaded ammo compared to original factory
Reloaded ammo compared to original factory
CH loading dies for the 9.4 Dutch
CH loading dies for the 9.4 Dutch

Dutch Revolver

 

                                            The 9.4 Dutch Revolvers

 Brought out in 1873 as military and service revolver it was used through WWll to some extent. Both the police and military used it to some extent. There doesn’t seem to be any records showing that it was offered commercially. Officially it was replaced in 1911 by the 1903 model Browning but it saw some use through WWll. It was produced by the de Beaumont company.  The old (OM) model has an octagon barrel while the newer (NM) one is round. It has one unusual feature that isn’t found on few if any other revolvers. The lanyard ring doubles as a safety. A quarter turn will lock hammer preventing the gun from being fired and the cylinder from turning. In this day of political correctness I am surprised that it isn’t on some modern revolvers. It is a typical double action holding 6 rounds of ammo though the empties have to be pushed out with something as it doesn’t have a extractor. You either solved your problem with 5 or 6 shots depending on which model you have or be able to out run your antagonist.  Like many of its contemporaries the double action trigger pull is so heavy that accurate shooting would be impossible though the single action is fairly decent for its time. Like other guns of the period it appears to be a quality item with a good finish.

 

 

 Ammo for it isn’t available nor is there any info on how to make it. I have an original box of the stuff which gives you an idea on how it looks. The bullets are very blunt probably to make the maximum use of the case capacity. Also blunt bullets can be more effective and this cartridge needs some help in that department. The bullets have dates on them an unusual feature. The case is tapered about .017 from the base to the top. That makes it harder to make ammo for it. The bullet diameter is 380 according to my measurements by slugging the barrel. Naturally there are no commercial bullets available. No other handgun that I am aware of sports that diameter. There are a couple of rifles that have that bullet but they are too heavy for the little revolver. As I have done in the past I made my own bullets & cases. The 41 magnum case shortened is the best case to use and the bullets I use are swaged. I obtained a set of dies from CH Tool and Die. They put a little neck on the case but that causes no problems. I imagine it was easier to cut them that way rather then with the slight taper of the original case.  I had some 135 and 180 grain projectiles to start with. I swaged them down from 40 calibers which seems drastic but they work fine. No one to my knowledge makes them and if you were to order a mold it would be very costly and probably have a long waiting time. There is no reason to make or use jacketed bullets as they wouldn’t benefit you in ant way. You should not shoot loads hot enough that would expand them and cast lead bullets provide plenty of accuracy.  With 2.5 X Herco the 180 were ok though slow. The 135’s were loaded ahead of 3.5 X Unique but the load was too light. The bullets barely came out and in fact one stuck in the barrel. I started on the conservative side as to not risk damaging the gun. At this time I have no way of know exactly when the gun was made. My revolver is the KLM model which is the small version with a 5 shot cylinder and octagon barrel.  Apparently is was made in Belgium as far as I can tell.  I wanted a few loads that were safe and accurate. My wish was to shoot the gun but not make a magnum out of it. The purpose of shooting such guns is to relive history and for the enjoyment. Ah Yes there is the challenge of making ammo and bullets for this weird gun. For self defense it would be barely adequate with the top loads though better then poking someone with a stick.  

 

LOAD                           BULLET                           VELOCITY                       COMMENT 

4.5 X Herco                  135 grain copper plated      852                                    accurate

4.5 X Unique                135 grain copper plated      720                                    consistent

3 X    Herco                  180 grain lead                     541                                    light

3.5 X Herco                  180 grain lead                      712                                   good load

17 X FFFG Goex          180 grain lead                     509                                    slow

 

 

 Shooting the gun is about like shooting a small framed 38 with lighter loads. Recoil isn’t a bother with any of the loads tested. It does shoot very high especially with the 180 grain bullets but once you get the measure of the sights it isn’t too bad. It isn’t a power house by any standards with the 135 grain load at 852 only produces 217 ft lbs of energy. I have access to a full size model but unfortunately it doesn’t fire on a reliable basis. Since the double action trigger is so heavy the only practical way to shoot it is single action. Doing that the hammer only falls part way when the trigger is pulled then comes down to rest when the trigger is released. Not sure at this time what the problem is but haven’t been able to shoot the gun much.  It has the octagon barrel and has an 1898 date stamp on it.

 

 There isn’t a lot of info on these fascinating guns in English but I understand that if you read German you might find something on the web. No one to my knowledge make ammo for it on a commercial basis but that’s what makes it interesting.

 

 

 

 

 

Comments

308 Match 2 years ago

Hi Bob,

Nice article and nice revolver, you mentioned that Beaumont

was the manfacture,now this is wrong,Beaumont was the seller

the gun you own is probably made in Liege Belgium at about

1880 until early 1910. At that time there were countless

gunmanufactures in that area.Looking at the picture it is a

Tranter or a Francotte copy.Not unusualy at those days.

Personaly I tipped the last one, the only thing that is

frustrating me that there is no documentation or sparly

for that specific area.The only thing I know is that Dutch

Officers bought their sidearm in private. Also not unusualy

for those days!At my knowlidge the first manufacturer was

Stevens at Maastricht.Who sold this revolvers for 35 HFL.

But This model if different then yours(picture already send

to you)At about 1880 this firm was liquidated. By order from

18 Oktober 1880 ordernr.32, was tell so,and at that time

was announced that a privat company has taken over buisenes

The name is; De HEEREN VAN BEAUMONT and SOLEIL at MAASTRICHT

At your revolver must be the stamp HVBM.Also must be there a

mark IDW(wich stand for Inspectie der draagbare wapenen)

Resumee Nice gun good quality for that time, but not the

original Dutch service revolver.Probably a officer bought

this beauty privat and take it in service in the Dutch army.

Collectrs item!!!

emile 2 years ago

The revolver at the top is a M91 revolver for use by colonial troops in the Netherlands East Indies. From 1891 till replaced by the Parabellum in 1911. Later it was used by Police Forces in the NEI.

The bottom revolver was used in The Netherlands by Government services such as Police, Customs, Prison service etc. Not a military arm. This revolver was phased out by the end of WW2. The Beaumont sold the M71 to the Netherlands Government from 1871 and was for use by the Army in The Netherlands and the Navy. It was a design by Bergansius, an officer of the Dutch Army. The original revolvers with octagonal barrels, were augmented as of about 1912, by the same revolver but with a round barrel. These M71 revolvers were still in use, next to the FN10-22,in the 1940 campaign.

All the above fired the 9,4 mm round in different versions.

308 MATCH 2 years ago

Thank you Emile, I read your comment and it hits me like

a hammer. Yes your right, Koninklijk Nederlands Indisch

Leger (KNIL) a army force, who was independed in her

decissions to buy arms, now this means that the mark IDW

is not on this particalar arm. Parabellum? never new that

Schmeisser yes, MP 28II and MP 40, but at my knowledge

never official adopted in the KNIL. This means that it is

not impossible! Now I have a simmular gun, cal. 9.4 with

no stamps, only on top of barrel stand ACIER FONDUE, at

the cylinder back Belgian proofmark ELG in oval.

No further proofmarks!

If you have more infomation please let me know!

Greetings Herman

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